{"id":135704,"date":"2019-11-16T22:54:53","date_gmt":"2019-11-16T22:54:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/debate\/article-7693403\/ELIZABETH-DAY-not-victim-Andrew-real-victims-invisible-you.html?ns_mchannel=rss&amp;ito=1490&amp;ns_campaign=1490"},"modified":"2019-11-16T22:54:53","modified_gmt":"2019-11-16T22:54:53","slug":"elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/so\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you\/","title":{"rendered":"ELIZABETH DAY: You are not the victim, Andrew &#8211; the real victims are invisible to you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">What on Earth was Prince Andrew thinking? The answer, surely, is not very much. This is his historic problem: he has never thought, not really. As a cosseted member of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/royals\/index.html\" id=\"mol-cccad460-08bc-11ea-8f8b-9dbdd79b1b74\">Royal Family<\/a>, who will probably never inherit the crown but who has all the privileges inherent in the sliver of possibility that he might, the Duke of York has never had to think.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">There are courtiers who are employed to do that for him. There is a whole system of secrecy surrounding him, which has hushed up his terrible choices for decades, and it is a system founded on the bizarre notion that we shouldn\u2019t know too much about our Royals lest it damages their other-worldly mystique.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">This is a man in such a state of suspended development that, when I interviewed him several years ago, he had a teddy bear propped up on a chair outside his office.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">When I asked him then if he ever imagined what his life might have been like had he not been born a Royal, he was aghast at my impertinence. He couldn\u2019t conceive of an alternative existence. He simply lacked the necessary empathy to imagine it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-5cc9348682889c39\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-1.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"As a cosseted member of the Royal Family, who will probably never inherit the crown but who has all the privileges inherent in the sliver of possibility that he might, the Duke of York has never had to think\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-5cc9348682889c39\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-1.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"As a cosseted member of the Royal Family, who will probably never inherit the crown but who has all the privileges inherent in the sliver of possibility that he might, the Duke of York has never had to think\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">As a cosseted member of the Royal Family, who will probably never inherit the crown but who has all the privileges inherent in the sliver of possibility that he might, the Duke of York has never had to think<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">So Prince Andrew wasn\u2019t thinking when he invited the television cameras in to Buckingham Palace. He wasn\u2019t thinking about how ill-equipped he is to do a prime-time television interview with that most forensic of inquisitors, Emily Maitlis. He\u2019s probably never watched an episode of Newsnight in his life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He wasn\u2019t thinking about how, sitting in that vast and gilded room of state, he might come across to ordinary people \u2013 the ones whose homes have been flooded because of inadequate defences, whose flats have burned because of dodgy cladding, whose voting intention this Election is shaped by the sense they have been completely ignored by our ruling elites for decades.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">No, Prince Andrew was not thinking about these people, who might quite reasonably ask why a man accused of sleeping with a 17-yearold \u2018sex slave\u2019 and hanging out with a convicted child sex offender was giving his first interview to a television crew, rather than to the police.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">But the most revolting aspect of this self-indulgent prime-time palooza was that Prince Andrew was not thinking of the female victims at all.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-3ae7ee5dfb77a7b4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-2.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Asked repeatedly by Maitlis whether he had ever met his accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, he replied: \u2018I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever\u2019\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-3ae7ee5dfb77a7b4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-2.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Asked repeatedly by Maitlis whether he had ever met his accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, he replied: \u2018I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever\u2019\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">Asked repeatedly by Maitlis whether he had ever met his accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, he replied: \u2018I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever\u2019<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He was not thinking of those women who were abused by his good friend Jeffrey Epstein, some of whom were only 14 years old at the time the offences took place. He was not thinking of the deleterious impact on their lives or the trauma they might have suffered.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He didn\u2019t seem to understand that this was a story far bigger than him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">That even if he continued to protest the falseness of the accusations against him, there were still real people who had suffered real abuse to consider.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">But not once did he consider them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Asked repeatedly by Maitlis whether he had ever met his accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, he replied: \u2018I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">No recollection. Subtext: she was beneath my concern; one of the little people whose existence I am only dimly aware of.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Nor was it an explicit denial. Because if Prince Andrew can\u2019t remember meeting her, isn\u2019t it also possible that he can\u2019t remember sleeping with her?<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">It was a weak defence, made weaker by his insistence on calling 35-year-old Giuffre a \u2018lady\u2019 rather than a woman, in the manner of some dodgy 1970s disc jockey. It was made weaker still by the peculiarity of his memory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Although he had no recollection of meeting Giuffre, despite photographic evidence to the contrary, he did have a specific ability to recall that on the night of March 10, 2001 \u2013 when she claimed they danced together in Tramp nightclub and later, allegedly, had sex, he had been taking his daughter Beatrice to a party at Pizza Express in Woking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Maitlis\u2019s incredulity seemed strained to breaking point.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018Why would you remember that so specifically?\u2019 she asked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018Because going to Pizza Express in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do, a very unusual thing for me to do,\u2019 he replied, heaping pomposity on to his total lack of credibility. I\u2019ve never before heard an outing to Pizza Express in Woking being described as an exotically memorable curiosity, but clearly for Prince Andrew it served as a sort of safari expedition into the odd lives of normal folk.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-8b6ec306423a127\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-3.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"There was the astonishing claim that Giuffre\u2019s recollection of Andrew \u2018sweating profusely\u2019 couldn\u2019t possibly be true because he was apparently suffering from an unnamed temporary \u2018medical condition\u2019 at the time which meant he couldn\u2019t perspire\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-8b6ec306423a127\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-3.jpg\" height=\"357\" width=\"634\" alt=\"There was the astonishing claim that Giuffre\u2019s recollection of Andrew \u2018sweating profusely\u2019 couldn\u2019t possibly be true because he was apparently suffering from an unnamed temporary \u2018medical condition\u2019 at the time which meant he couldn\u2019t perspire\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">There was the astonishing claim that Giuffre\u2019s recollection of Andrew \u2018sweating profusely\u2019 couldn\u2019t possibly be true because he was apparently suffering from an unnamed temporary \u2018medical condition\u2019 at the time which meant he couldn\u2019t perspire&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018I\u2019ve never been&#8230; I\u2019ve only been to Woking a couple of times and I remember it weirdly distinctly.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">And then, of course, there was the astonishing claim that Giuffre\u2019s recollection of Andrew \u2018sweating profusely\u2019 couldn\u2019t possibly be true because he was apparently suffering from an unnamed temporary \u2018medical condition\u2019 at the time which meant he couldn\u2019t perspire. The cause of this mysteriously convenient ailment was, according to the Duke of York, a direct result of an adrenalin overdose after having being \u2018shot at\u2019 during the Falklands conflict. Handily, his no-sweat defence also enabled the Prince to depict himself as a war hero. In fact, he mentioned his career in the Navy on no fewer than three occasions. How many times did he think to utter the word \u2018victim\u2019? Not once.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">So no, Prince Andrew didn\u2019t think. At points, watching his neck wattle jiggle over his shirt collar as he shook his head at the impossibility of being asked to answer a simple question, I found myself wondering if Prince Andrew had ever thought of anyone other than himself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">But he was too blinkered to realise how he was coming across. In Prince Andrew\u2019s head, I imagine he thought it was all going swimmingly. He used the phrase \u2018funnily enough\u2019 several times, usually when he was being pressed on matters of fact \u2013 when precisely had he last seen either Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, for instance.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-df12f81a7b3001d4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-4.jpg\" height=\"423\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell pictured together in New York in 2005\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-df12f81a7b3001d4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-4.jpg\" height=\"423\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell pictured together in New York in 2005\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell pictured together in New York in 2005<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">What he couldn\u2019t quite grasp was that there was nothing funny about this; nothing at all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">At one point, he actually laughed. It came as Maitlis pushed him on why the Duke maintained his friendship with Epstein after 2008, when the American financier had been convicted of procuring an underage girl for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute. Epstein was convicted of these two crimes in a plea deal \u2013 authorities had actually identified 36 potential victims.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">No matter for Prince Andrew, who kept up his friendship with Epstein and stayed in his New York home in 2010 for several days.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018That\u2019s the bit, as it were, I kick myself for on a daily basis,\u2019 the Duke said, breaking off into a strange little laugh.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018His eyes shot up to the ceiling as if chuckling at the absurdity of having to defend himself from such a trifling misdemeanour. \u2018Because,\u2019 he carried on, \u2018it was not something that was becoming of a member of the Royal Family and we try and uphold the highest standards and practices, and I let the side down, simple as that.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">It was this, we discovered, that Andrew truly cared about: the reputation of his family. He cared about his rank. Not the women who were abused. Not about their families or their parents, but about his own. He cared about clinging on to the power that created him, as if the worst thing he could conceive of was the bubble of his elitism being pricked by outside forces beyond his control.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-d2ed384bf5dc1558\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-5.jpg\" height=\"427\" width=\"634\" alt=\"The Duke of York , speaking for the first time about his links to Jeffrey Epstein in an interview with BBC Newsnight's Emily Maitlis\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-d2ed384bf5dc1558\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you-5.jpg\" height=\"427\" width=\"634\" alt=\"The Duke of York , speaking for the first time about his links to Jeffrey Epstein in an interview with BBC Newsnight's Emily Maitlis\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">The Duke of York , speaking for the first time about his links to Jeffrey Epstein in an interview with BBC Newsnight&#8217;s Emily Maitlis&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">It got worse. When challenged by Maitlis, Andrew responded that it was \u2018a convenient place to stay\u2019 as if members of the Royal Family are bereft of accommodation choices when they travel the globe and must rely on the kindness of their criminal friends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018I mean I\u2019ve gone through this in my mind so many times,\u2019 he blustered. I bet he has: replaying events so that he can wriggle his way out of any responsibility.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">\u2018At the end of the day, with a benefit of all the hindsight that one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do,\u2019 he concluded pompously.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Ah. The well-worn defence of hindsight. But Andrew, I wanted to scream at the screen, you didn\u2019t need extra hindsight. Hindsight was already available to you given that Epstein had been convicted in 2008 and you stayed with him in 2010. That\u2019s two years of hindsight right there!<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">What he means, of course, is that in the years that followed, the scandal didn\u2019t just go away, as Prince Andrew had arrogantly assumed it would.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Instead, he would experience the unfamiliar sensation of being held accountable for his actions. That\u2019s the hindsight he\u2019s referring to. The self-interested kind.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">On screen, Andrew took up the thread: \u2018But at the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do, and I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that\u2019s just the way it is.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">It is difficult to imagine a more breathtaking conceit. Prince Andrew was asking us all to believe that he had found himself consorting with a convicted sex offender and accused of having sex with a 17-year-old in a London nightclub toilet, purely because he was being too honourable?<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">No, Prince Andrew. You are not a victim of your honour. You are a product of your inflated ego, of your outrageous belief in your own exceptionalism. You are not a victim at all. It\u2019s just that you can\u2019t see this, because the real victims are invisible to you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What on Earth was Prince Andrew thinking? The answer, surely, is not very much. This is his historic problem: he has never thought, not really. As a cosseted member of the Royal Family, who will probably never inherit the crown but who has all the privileges inherent in the sliver of possibility that he might, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":135705,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":{"facebook_10221280388112155_325455220908133":""},"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-135704","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-english-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>ELIZABETH DAY: You are not the victim, Andrew - the real victims are invisible to you - Wardoon<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/wardoon.net\/so\/elizabeth-day-you-are-not-the-victim-andrew-the-real-victims-are-invisible-to-you\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"ELIZABETH DAY: You are not the victim, Andrew - the real victims are invisible to you - Wardoon\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"What on Earth was Prince Andrew thinking? 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