{"id":137273,"date":"2019-11-21T16:02:08","date_gmt":"2019-11-21T13:02:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-7707365\/US-judge-clears-way-defamation-case-Musk-pedo-tweet.html?ns_mchannel=rss&amp;ito=1490&amp;ns_campaign=1490"},"modified":"2019-11-21T16:02:08","modified_gmt":"2019-11-21T13:02:08","slug":"elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/so\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk will face trial over &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; tweets: US judge clears way for defamation case"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Elon Musk will take the stand at his defamation trial against a British diver who he called a &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; next month.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">The Tesla billionaire is being sued by Vernon Unsworth in a California court. In 2018, Musk tweeted that he was a &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; after Unsworth criticized his efforts to rescue 12 boys from a cave in Thailand using a miniature submarine.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Musk has been trying to have the case dismissed for months and last week, a judge denied his most recent attempt to have it thrown out.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Both sides have now submitted witness and evidence lists which reveals how the trial will take shape.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Musk plans to not only testify himself, but his lawyers will also call on Unsworth&#8217;s Thai wife,&nbsp;Woranan Ratrawiphukkun, and his first wife, Vanessa.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He will also call Unsworth and former Tesla&nbsp;senior director of global communications Dave Arnold.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Musk&#8217;s lawyers say they will use texts, emails and photographs as evidence exhibits.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-f69774db0e6b5fa0\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-1.jpg\" height=\"423\" width=\"634\" alt=\"A federal judge rejected Tesla chief Elon Musk's argument that 'pedo guy' is a common insult\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-f69774db0e6b5fa0\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-1.jpg\" height=\"423\" width=\"634\" alt=\"A federal judge rejected Tesla chief Elon Musk's argument that 'pedo guy' is a common insult\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">&nbsp;A federal judge rejected Tesla chief Elon Musk&#8217;s argument that &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; is a common insult<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Musk made critical comments about diver Vernon Unsworth, who helped with the rescue, after the diver ridiculed Musk&#8217;s proposal to build a mini-submarine to save the Thai boys, calling it a &#8216;PR stunt.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">In one of his various attempts to stop the case, Musk tried to suggest that &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; was a common insult in South Africa, where he is from.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Judge Stephen Wilson rejected that argument.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He accepted aspects of Musk&#8217;s argument that Unsworth was a &#8216;limited public figure&#8217; who had voluntarily injected himself into the public debate about how to save the boys &#8211; meaning he would have to prove actual malice from Musk.<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-636a2de57250774d\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-2.jpg\" height=\"457\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Vernon: Musk referred to the British expat diver (above) who was involved in the rescue mission to save a group of Thai boys in 2018 as a 'pedo'\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-636a2de57250774d\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-2.jpg\" height=\"457\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Vernon: Musk referred to the British expat diver (above) who was involved in the rescue mission to save a group of Thai boys in 2018 as a 'pedo'\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">Vernon: Musk referred to the British expat diver (above) who was involved in the rescue mission to save a group of Thai boys in 2018 as a &#8216;pedo&#8217;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">To win a defamation case in US courts, public figures like celebrities must show actual malice on the part of the person making a false statement, as opposed to the lower standard of negligence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">But Wilson ruled Musk should not be shielded from a defamation lawsuit because the allegation of pedophilia was not connected to the debate about how to save the boys.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Judge Wilson wrote in a decision earlier this week: &#8216;To allow criticism into every aspect of a plaintiff&#8217;s life simply because he chose to get involved in a limited issue would render him an all-purpose public figure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">&#8216;For defendant&#8217;s comments to relate to Plaintiff&#8217;s participation in public controversies, there must be some relationship between pedophilia and the rescue or the subs &#8211; there is simply no credible connection here.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Alex Spiro, an attorney representing Musk, said in an email that &#8216;we look forward to the trial.&#8217;<\/p>\n<div class=\"artSplitter mol-img-group\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-69b76e8aff7096e7\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-3.jpg\" height=\"346\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Rescue mission: The Thai cave boys Unsworth helped save are pictured during their ordeal\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-69b76e8aff7096e7\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-3.jpg\" height=\"346\" width=\"634\" alt=\"Rescue mission: The Thai cave boys Unsworth helped save are pictured during their ordeal\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">Rescue mission: The Thai cave boys Unsworth helped save are pictured during their ordeal<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"art-ins mol-factbox news\" data-version=\"2\" id=\"mol-e46dcd70-0c36-11ea-abc5-d72ca07dfaec\" data-permabox-url=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-7707365\/US-judge-clears-way-defamation-case-Musk-pedo-tweet.html\">\n<h3 class=\"mol-factbox-title\">TIMELINE OF THE THAI RESCUE AND MUSK AND UNSWORTH&#8217;S DISPUTE&nbsp;<\/h3>\n<div class=\"ins cleared mol-factbox-body\">\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">June 23 2018:<\/span> The boys and their soccer coach become trapped in the caves<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">July 8:<\/span> Musk tweets that he is using Tesla engineers to build a &#8216;kid size&#8217; submarine to try to get them out<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">July 8 &#8211; 10:<\/span> The boys were rescued gradually in a complex mission involving hundreds of people&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">July 13:<\/span> Vernon Unsworth gives a CNN interview where he is asked about Musk&#8217;s plan. He calls it a &#8216;PR stunt&#8217; and says: &#8216;He can stick it where it hurts&#8217; in reference to the submarine&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">July 15:<\/span>&nbsp;Musk tweets calling him a &#8216;pedo guy&#8217;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"mol-img-group artSplitter\">\n<div class=\"mol-img\">\n<div class=\"image-wrap\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-f6dac9cdef6963a4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-4.jpg\" height=\"477\" width=\"586\" alt=\"Musk tweeted this last July after Unsworth told CNN the Tesla CEO's plan to rescue the boys with a submarine would not work\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"i-f6dac9cdef6963a4\" src=\"http:\/\/wardoon.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/elon-musk-will-face-trial-over-pedo-guy-tweets-us-judge-clears-way-for-defamation-case-4.jpg\" height=\"477\" width=\"586\" alt=\"Musk tweeted this last July after Unsworth told CNN the Tesla CEO's plan to rescue the boys with a submarine would not work\" class=\"blkBorder img-share\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"imageCaption\">Musk tweeted this last July after Unsworth told CNN the Tesla CEO&#8217;s plan to rescue the boys with a submarine would not work&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">July 17:<\/span> Musk apologizes<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 15:<\/span>&nbsp;Musk hires Howard after he got in touch with him saying, in an email:&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8216;Dear Elon, you may wish to dig deep and look into Mr. Unsworth&#8217;s past&#8230; no smoke without fire!&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">They set about launching their &#8216;investigation&#8217; but go to great lengths to keep Musk separate from it. In emails, Musk&#8217;s associate Jared Birchall carried out their dealings and Musk was referred to as &#8216;the principle&#8217;. He and Birchall never discussed it in writing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 24:<\/span> Birchall emailed Howard asking for &#8216;confirmation that Unsworth met his wife when she was a minor&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 25<\/span>: Birchall emailed Howard saying: &#8216;For successful confirmation of nefarious behavior there is an additional $10k bonus&#8217;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 27:<\/span>&nbsp;Howard is instructed to launch a media &#8216;leak&#8217;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">&#8216;Priority is to divert the story away from the principal and let the UK tabloids develp there [sic] story,&#8217; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">He goes on to say UK readers are &#8216;familiar&#8217; with Thailand &#8216;&amp; its culture to welcome and protect sex tourist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">&#8216;We call it Yellow Fever where older men leave there [sic] wives for a young Thai friend.&#8217;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Howard then told him in one text that he was the &#8216;only link on the chain who knows who the beneficiary is&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">&#8216;The Thai team and Richard all believe that this is for a children&#8217;s charity in the UK,&#8217; he said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\">Despite trying to get journalists to print the unsubstantiated claims, none do.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 28:<\/span>&nbsp;Musk tweets in response to a follower who accused him of lying about Unsworth: &#8216;You don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s strange he hasn&#8217;t sued me yet?<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">August 30:<\/span> BuzzFeed reporter emails Musk for a comment. He replies saying, among other things, that Unsworth married a &#8216;child bride&#8217; and inferring that he is a rapist<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">September 4:<\/span> BuzzFeed publishes the story&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">September 5:<\/span> Private Investigator emails Birchall, Musk&#8217;s associate, saying: &#8216;<span class=\"class\">At no time have have I reported that the<\/span> <span class=\"class\">target is a child rapist.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"mol-para-with-font\"><span class=\"mol-style-bold\">September 17<\/span>: Unsworth files a lawsuit against Musk &nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elon Musk will take the stand at his defamation trial against a British diver who he called a &#8216;pedo guy&#8217; next month.&nbsp; The Tesla billionaire is being sued by Vernon Unsworth in a California court. 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